If you're into grindcore or into any fast, pissed of and intense music that's a mandatory listen!
And here's a long and interesting written interview from the band. All the guys took the time to speak out their mind. So take the time to read them! :
-who are you and what is the history of the band?
Brandon:
Thanks for the interview. We are Gripe. We started out as a three piece
hardcore band in Athens GA in late 2010. We have since expanded and
have a new Front man and bass player ( Jordan Snott and Spencer Dilday)
Originally it was Tom, DJ (Our first vocalist) and me. Our first demo
was called The Future Doesn't Need You. It was ten songs of paranoid,
negative, and fairly harsh sounding grindviolence. We have since gotten
better at this style of music and released a new ep with the new lineup
called Pig Servant. Which I think is head and shoulders better than
our first ep. Jordan rips his throat up for your amusement, Tom comes up
with the clever drum fills that makes us sound like we know what we are
doing, Spencer provides bottom end with authority, and I impersonate
someone playing guitar.
-what does hardcore/grindcore means to you? how would you describe it to someone who don't know what it is?
Jordan: Short. Fast. Loud.
Brandon:
Short Fast Loud. haha. It means for me having an outlet for anger that
allot of other forms of music simply wont allow. Its funny to me that
we live in such a weirdly violent culture but in so many ways its
repressed or channeled into other areas of your life.We dont mind the
fact that video games now teach kids to literally kill like professional
soldiers yet this style of music is still for the most part socially
unacceptable yet dub step is not hahaI.I mean I dont want any weird
video game censor ships I love fatality's, I dunno just a thought
really, I think as a culture we tend to channel violence into like 5
areas- sports, entertainment, porn, foreign polices and law enforcement.
Violent sounding music is largely not apart of mainstream thought and I
dont know i it should be really. I mean I would never actually want to
walk into an outlet mall and hear grindcore playing part of the fun of
it is that it is a an act of rebellion against the herd. That being
said, there is currently a movement to fancy up the genre and make it
more tame and acceptable to try to turn a profit off of it. They will
fail. This is not the first time this has happened and it wont be the
last. Grind core is not the new grey, it is not supposed to be the
flavor of the week, and it is most certainly never meant to be safe.
Tom: I've always liked the crushing desperation that a good grind band
can convey. I also feel like grindcore is actually a surprisingly varied
genre. As far as punk/hardcore in general, I like the idea that
everyone should pick up instruments and play music without all the rock
star bullshit.
Spencer: something for us. something that those bastards cant capitalize
on. as much as they try, they can never grasp the concept of D.I.Y and
doing something because we love doing it. not to exploit anyone or make
any real monetary gain. unadulterated, uncensored aggression. its a
release from everyday bullshit. its a fuck you to moral and social
standards.
-do you play (or have played) in other bands? what kind of music?
Jordan: I sang for some hardcore and
deathgrind bands in the past. Most notably was a short lived band called
Griefa with members of Akkolyte and Noisear. Always heavy with blast
beats and shit.
Brandon: To many to name and none really worth mentioning because
there are no surviving recordings any way so it does not really matter.
But they were great learning experiences and as long as I am alive and
have half a functional brain and basic motor skills I will continue to
play in various forms of punk and nasty metal bands ( Doom, D beat,
Crust, PV, Death, Black, thrash,hardcore, whatever, etc.)
Tom: I used to play in a bunch of bands in Milwaukee, WI. I played
guitar in grindcore bands Copeater and Abaddon, the psychedelic thrash
band Quest for Fire, and the um "modern hardcore" band Enabler. I've
recently started playing guitar in an as-of-yet-unnamed fast thrash band
here in Athens.
Spencer: Ive been in bands since i was a kid. Mostly in Michigan. Lots
of crust/hardcore bands. Human Means Extinct, Babehammer,Piss Wiggles,
the list goes on. Me and Jordan are working on a side project called
Leftovers.
-does
the fact that you play hardcore /grindcore is linked to your political
(radical judging by the lyrics) stand, and if so in what way?
Jordan: No. To me music is music. politics is
politics. and people are people. You re always gonna write about stuff
you think and feel so that expression is there but I don't see hardcore
as a political movement. Theres plenty of shitbags in the hardcore scene
whos views I vehemently disagree with. Just like in any "scene" or
group of people. To me hardcore is just a way to vent my anger. My
political stance wouldn't be any different if I were in any other style
of band. And theres allot of bands outside the hardcore scene with
radical or anarchist views too. I think allot of times the punk scene
tries to project itself as some sort of wonderful Utopian place where
people can be themselves and blablabla...but after years in the scene it
seems to me like people are just people and that is that. If you wanna
meet a real "down to earth" good person in this kind of world you gotta
be open to everyone and everything because even in the hardcore scene
real good people are hard to come by these days. Not to mention that
alot of hardcore kids are just into this shit bc its an image or a new
cool thing. If anyone thinks punk/grind/hardcore is any different than
any other scene just look at whats happening. Scion car company puts out
grind bands. Sony distributes punk music. Anything can be a commodity
if people wanna sell it as such. Theres nothing radical about hardcore
to me. Its just music. Its what we stand for as individuals that counts.
Brandon: I would also say no. If you look at the history of
hardcore punk not only are you going to see that not every band is
political you are also going to see everything from conservatives to
just utter indifference.. ( although I feel that these views dont
belong in punk) that is the reality. Hardcore punk rock is bred from
alienation, frustration, and often times isolation and boredom. If you
look at some of the best bands and the best scenes there coming from the
places that did not previously always have active punk scenes and
often times politcs were hardly the focus like Texas, The Mid West,
etc. Punk rock is not a Utopian paradise, it is not supposed to be.
That's not the world that we live in I can't make believe that it is.
Punk rock is not made up solely of these pseudo- brilliant, idealist,
pc, hipsters who think they have all the answers. Its supposed to be an
outlet for fucking weirdos, fuck ups, drugged out mutants with no hope,
kids from broken homes, outcast, people who exist on the fringes. It
gives kids who often times otherwise have nothing, something to believe
in. Thats why I like Grindcore it is one of the punkest forms of music
just by the virtue of also being one of the most fuck you styles of
music you can possible play. All that dumb shit being said, sometimes
politics are unavoidable because you should always address the shit that
really pisses you off and not shy away from a topic just cause it might
ruffle some feathers. Although I regard what we say as a band as mostly
social commentary more so than political. Also I think Hardcore should
always come from something of a radical stance just the sound in and of
itself is more "radical" than the way most forms of music sound. But a
"radical" sound and "Radical" outlook are two totally different things.
Tom: I appreciate the political side of the hardcore scene, but for me
its always been more a reflection of my philosophical, rather than
political, beliefs.
Spencer: Ive always been a pretty radical person
with my politics/lifestyle. lots of anarchist/direct action fun. To me,
punk is like a soundtrack to these things. A way to document atrocities
and share knowledge . it can also have nothing to do with politics and
not have any deeper meaning than getting drunk with good friends and
smashin shit.
-is
it sometimes a problem for you as a band or as individuals to express
these opinions in a state like Georgia (form France we see the "old
south" of the US as really conservative)?
Jordan: Well.. theres alot about the South that can be improved for
sure. (see the lyrics for our song "Southern Dehumanization") But I dont
think its much different than anywhere else ultimately. Every place has
its different problems. Anti authoritarian views are generally
unpopular no matter where you live. The South can also be a beautiful
place.(Actually my favorite area in the whole country) The landscape is
amazing and the good people here are about as good, "down to earth", and
hospitable as they come. So I guess you take the good with the bad. We
definitely have a history of racism and stubborn christian and
conservative thinking. But I think corruption, greed, and domination is a
global problem that manifests itself in different forms in all regions
and countries of the world.
Brandon:Well I have said before as a
native Southerner who has traveled kept an open mind and met people from
all over the world that most of the problems we discus in our songs are
not exclusive to the south and are world wide problems. Most places
outside of The South have what I like to call "Covert Racism" in that
they are not as openly racist as The South its much more subliminal but
they still harbor and manifest these views. But if it is more socially
acceptable to be racist here (and it certainly is in some areas) than
that should be an indicator that something in the culture has to die or
change That being said Southern Dehumanization is ultimately a pro
Southern punk anthem it flaunts the fact that yes we do have to deal
with more backwards assholes here, yes we do have to deal with Church
and state being directly correlated. We do deal with allot more poverty
than certain areas in The USA. But we get by and we dont let them get us
down.Its about our toughness and resiliency two qualities that you
would find most people not just "punks" have here in the South. But I
personally find the word "Conservative" to be as much a big terrible
thing as any other from of political dogma. I find it allot worse
really. by nature the very word conservative is in polar opposite to
being accepting and open minded. It means to be stuck and set in ones
ways opposed to change and improvement. The Southern Conservatives are
only against regulations because it gives them unlimited spending power
and the ability to exploit who they see fit. They are only against
taxation because when you increase that what really happens is your
going into their pockets. Honestly I still hate conservatives more than
I hate liberals the conservatives always hide behind this banner of
morality and patriotism all the while executing their reptilian self
serving plans. Sending the young off to die in foreign lands that we
have no right to invade to begin with, robbing the poor blind and then
having the audacity and the nerve to tell them its their own faults
their poor. passing down their hatred steeped in Out dated and dangerous
Old testament ideas from generation to generation. The liberals are
just as self serving ( albeit in a far less militant and insane way) and
have proven their selves to be even more cowardly The United States
government in general has proven itself as one of the most corrupt and
evil on the planet. Its ruled by the wealthy elite they run shit with a
iron fist they enforce their rule with misinformation and violence. The
media and the military are their greatest assets. They try to keep us
pitted against each other black versus white Conservative versus
liberal. The media is their first level of defense against the people
who they suppress. When they finally do to try to unite and rise against
the rich they unleash their military might ( Water boarding. Macing,
arrest without probable cause, police brutality in general,) Indefinite
detainment and SOPA bills get passed. . So I hate both sides as well
as anything rooted in our government and Constitution which has led to
nothing but war, slavery, a genocide of an entire indigenous people, Wal
Mart,Tom Cruise movies, The Atomic Bomb, Strip malls, Oil spills and
more oil spills, DDT, Prisons as industry industry as prison, The Ackey
breaky Heart song, pop up ads, you name it we took the most beautiful
continent on the planet turned it into a strip mall and a prison
industrial complex! Fuck capitalism and Fuck this government. But yeah
the South aint so bad haha
Tom: Um yeah, the south is pretty fucked up compared to many places in
America. Yeah, everywhere has fucked up people, but the south has a
certain pride in flaunting religious conservativism (for the record, I
do think of being "conservative" as a terrible thing), as though it
makes us superior. But there are also cool people most everywhere, and
our scene is largely insulated from the prevailing bigotry. So, being a
grindcore band from Georgia has really had no effect on our ability to
express our opinions.
Spencer: Im a native to the Midwest part of the states. Michigan to be
exact.and ive noticed that no one will admit it down here.. but.. the
south in general is definitly more racist and xenophobic. cops are
fucked up everywhere but ive noticed down here they are relentless...
lots of ridiculous laws. That being said , the US is pretty much the
same anywhere you go and people are people. Theres lots of good things
happening down here and a bunch of rad people/communities.
-what do you think about the Occupy movement? does it exists where you live? if so what's going on?
Jordan: It is rumored that it still exists here
but it is so incredibly small that it almost seems non existent. This is
bc we live in a small town that is seasonally polluted by rich college
kids who could care less. A friend and I tried to join the "movement"
here the first day but most of the people wanted us to leave because our
sign was "too violent". It said "Kill The Rich And Eat Their Babies."
Thats okay though. I think people are right when they say the occupy
movement doesn't really know what its trying to achieve. To me it seems
like a bunch of people with extremely contrasting viewpoints. The only
thing they DO seem to all have in common is that theyre all angry at the
US Government. That being said...I support it. I think it should get
more violent. I think everyone should just go fucking crazy and storm
Washington D.C. and hang everyone who was stupid and arrogant enough to
become a politician. That would be a nice statement. It will probably
never happen...but here's hoping.
-in what are you interested aside from music?
Jordan: Self Sufficiency, Self Defense, Hiking, Camping, Exploring,
Cooking, Home Brew, Guns, Religious studies....lots of stuff..
Brandon:
The great outdoors, fishing, archery, Basketball, Social work,
Chess, Sci fi novels, b horror movies, beer, Anthropology, Ancient
cultures, Human rights (Lack there of) history, lots of stuff
Tom: I'm working on a Phd in mathematics, so that is what I spend the majority of my time on. Also shooting hoops.
Spencer: homebrew, skateboarding, dogs,anarchism, graffiti, riding freight trains/hobo culture.......and of course.. pizza.
-The
future doesn't need you was already really good, Pig servant is in my
opinion even better, how will you manage to surpass it the next time?
Brandon: Thanks. I never personally want to
write the exact same record twice. Its just pointless and selfeating ya
know, like becoming a cover band of yourself nothing could be worse than
playing grind tributes to yourself..ahaha. I thought there was a
different flavor on this one a lil more grindy than the first one I
think we will continue to try to expand on our sound without betraying
the initial vision just to keep shit from getting stale and boring more
so to us more so than the audience really. I have always admired bands
who are relentless and consistent Agaothecles come to mind. I also like
when bands develop within the context of what they were already doing
Great examples are Discordance Axis, Napalm Death From Scum to FETO so
much growth. Black Sabbath Their first album just to Paranoid all the way
to like vol 4 or sabbath bloody sabbath! Every record is different but
still obviously Black Sabbath when giving the chance to rant about Black
Sabbath I always will take it. But yeah trying different things never
hurts to me.
Tom: Brandon and I wrote the majority of the music on the first two
records, and I think that we have kind of an ADD approach to it. I think
that this fueled the progression between the two records. We have still
been writing a lot, but now Spencer and Jordan have been contributing,
and I think that our new music is another big leap forward.
-with which band do you dream to tour with?
Jordan:
Black Witchery...will never happen. All the other bands I would DREAM
to tour with are broken up I think. but Ild LIKE to tour with alot of
bands. There's some really good stuff coming out right now. I love Cloud
Rat. We played with them once and they are super original and super
cool kids...they know whats up. Ild like to tour with them for sure. And
my good friends Stefan and Aaron of grind powerhouse Akkolyte. Sweetest
kids in the world...practically family.
Brandon: Well I dont think you are ever going to see the day when
Gripe is on some package tour kinda thing. But that being said, if Gripe
were to tour with another band, we would have to share a van with
whomever we are touring with because we dont have a van currently. haha
So whoever is nice/dumb enough to get in a van with us is probably
alright with us. Actually our good pals Grinchfinger stepped up to the
plate and we are touring this summer with them in limited dates! So yeah
stoked, they are Mince core masters and the best thing to come out of
Macon GA since Little Richard! The only other band I can think of who
would commit such an atrocity as getting in a van with us would be
future fastcore legends Short Walk out of MI
-which good bands from your area should we check?
Jordan: Nuklear Blast Suntan, The Fact, The Skuds, Spewtilator, Shaved Christ.
Brandon: Same bands listed above plus Grinchfinger, Bukakee Boys and The Fuzzlers.
-what are the projects for Gripe?
Jordan:
Keep writing songs. Plus Tom has a new band with members of American
Cheeseburger and Shaved Christ. Me and Spence are starting a new
hardcore band too and I believe Brandon is gonna do another band too.
More bands, bigger scene in Athens = more fun.
Brandon: Yeah I guess what Jordan said. haha IS this thing done
yet? Oh wait we got one more haha. Oh wait also, must mention the
upcoming splits with our rebel partners in grind Chulo from Columbia and
Diseksa from Singapore! The one with diseksa is entitled Indefinite
Detention and will be on pro tape courtesy of Fastdie records limit to
300! The Chulo split is Man Vs cop, limit 50 to Floppy disk! That is not
a typeo, floppy disk will be the format!